After Train Wreck? Trump defends his ban on Muslims amid fierce liberal backlash

@ROliverLuce | 01-29-17

A fierce backlash, from the liberals of the Democrat party who lost the 2016 election. The America people want to be safe!

The only train wreck is those hundreds of protesters and liberal lawyers making a scene in the middle of busy airports over a few Muslims caught coming into the country! We are in another kind of COLD WAR with Islam pushing for Sharia dominance worldwide.

Banning Muslims is Constitutional according to the Muslim Hadith, the Quran, & the Sira in light of The Constitution!
No Matter what slight versions of these three holy books.
All Muslims must serve Allah as the only god. And his servant Mohammad is his prophet whereby all Muslims must emulate in various ways in their lives.

It’s only the liberal elements and other misguided people in our society who are fierce against the new American President who has been elected to stop this present Muslim invasion of North America. Mrs. Hillary’s liberal forces are attempting to STOP the ‘will’ of the people and their States!

President Trump is making good on a plan to SAVE the Republic from lawlessness and the invasion of Sharia. It is good that Muslims are stopped in their tracks and sent back from various airports to their own countries where Sharia is the LAW of the LAND THERE. Not here in America!

It’s all about our laws [Anti-Muslim laws of 1952, the Constitution.],
it’s all about our Constitution [No room for Sharia],
it’s all about WHY the Founding Fathers
initiated the founding of the U.S. Marines to fight the Muslims and quell their dangerous quest for world domination and world commerce.

The problem why Muslims look and sound innocent is due to their simple humanity.  They have feelings as well as other Americans.  But those feelings side with a sinister of a system of belief that is both political and religious.  This system comes from Islam’s holy (in their view) trilogy.  And they do have Imams that preach and teach them how and when to carry out Allah’s will accordingly.  Thus all Muslims must perform those dictates (in various personal ways) from those books that form the basis of Sharia (law).  This they do in pleasing their God, Allah.  When they enter another host country they must adhere to the ‘holy’ scheme of overpowering that host nation but in various stages according to how the will of Allah is best suited.

An example of a cultural jihad is taking over the streets and praying.  Another example would be groups of Muslims attending an American school and telling the school they are offended at a Christian cross or an American flag.  Every sane person should understand this kind of behavior is rude, no matter the religion.  It’s common sense to leave the country they are offended at.  When in Rome do as the Romans do!!

These jihadi stages depend on the Muslim’s growth in numbers.  The Muslim’s jihad activity also depends on how weak and useful the host nation’s population appears to them.  Muslims in each stage will grow progressively bolder with each type of cultural jihads.  Violent jihad is taken up by Muslims who are willing to be the soldiers of Islam for the glory of Allah.  The rest (the citizens of Islam if you will)  are the quiet but willing supporters.  Violent jihad can be used as a distraction from the cultural jihads that are being conducted.  Conducted by the peaceful Muslims who support the terrorist warriors.

Actually the advancement of Sharia depends on how quickly the other Muslim nations can push their numbers into the host country in question as well as how quickly Muslim families can produce babies.  Muslims are known for having 8 or more children per family.  And it also can be referred to as a jihad for the cause of Allah.

It’s all about  Sharia (law) in a creeping fashion in America!

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Rubio’s Town Hall Reply Reflects the Spirit of Lawlessness & Commitment in America

{America at Risk with NO Visionaries in Leadership}
In reply, Rubio didn’t hesitate to tell everyone in the town hall what can’t be done!

~ROliverLuce | 02-26-15

The Rubio town-hall reply and others like him believe in relenting to the lie America can NEVER deport nor locate illegal foreigners much less keep them from coming, keep telling us this! But as the former President Eisenhower has done, he had shown the country it can be done using under a thousand border agents. Several million illegals were deported and sent back to Mexico within the year in 1954.

Even common sense is able to see this as foolishness! Why? Because deportation does not mean illegal foreigners DO NOT HAVE to be deported within a year or two or three. It can be done through a period of years with a low profile of outlawing businesses of hiring illegals. And gradually raising the prices of fruits and veggies for example followed by pay raises for Americans who can then make a living. Stop using illegals as pay slaves!!

This whole issue is about “lawlessness begetting lawlessness” by allowing illegal foreigners and making them legal by dictate or doing nothing, and giving government services and candy (so to speak) that encourages the current flood of millions more into our country. All this by ignoring our LEGAL immigration screening system that also should be used to keep a check on our own labor market.

We are more than able to rebuild the process of fixing our illegal-foreigner program, constitutionally!
So in locating and deporting [illegals] is to first outlaw the hiring of illegals by any American companies with expensive fines with the use of everify! We must support the American labor and sales markets and not the global markets. Globalism always come LAST without America becoming an isolationist.

Then outlaw the government from giving out services and goods to foreigners which simply eggs foreigners to rush in like a flood and those who have been doing THIS knew very well what they were doing! Therefore it comes to a stop!

Then allow reasonable profiling by the police when there is reason to suspect a person may be an illegal and/or a foreigner without legal status to verify. Remember, if we the American people get stopped for being suspected of being an illegal we can proudly display our pride of country and patiently verify our status. And why NOT? We should be proud the police are doing their job in securing our county’s financial future if you will!!

Upon these findings they (illegal foreigners) must be arrested with American kindness but with boldness without false guilt in deporting them. Kindness? We are assisting the foreigners to do the right thing and we DO NOT NEED to be abrasive about it. Why should we in doing the right thing? I say this to shut the mouths of liberals who call good evil and evil good in gainsaying against what is right.

Again, enforcing the law and order has nothing to do with guilt. It’s not evil to assist others in helping their own countries instead of becoming lawless people in our own house here in America.

So on the global stage, America must help other countries and their populations from a position of strength and NOT FROM A POSITION of national guilt and instability through bad policies being pushed and supported by political groups that subvert and pervert American freedoms and responsibilities.

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As to Senator Rubio’s statement: Allow me to break down the issues Senator Rubio has touched on regarding retaining and supporting illegals and lawlessness from his statement!

Issues A through F relating to Senator Rubio’s recent town hall statement.
(A:) “I don’t think anyone can commit that to you,” Rubio said.
(B:) “You have 12 million human beings in America,
(C:) most of whom we don’t even know who they are
(D:) and some of them whom our country’s not going to tolerate rounding up
(E:) and sending back.
(F:) That’s not a realistic proposal.”

Let’s examine each part of Mr. Rubio’s statement here which many other light hearted leaders are telling us what can’t and should be done in their thinking. The following issues one at a time:

Issue (A:) I can understand why many leaders can’t commit to being visionaries as statesmen in supporting the law through deportations and outlawing hiring! They have lost their vision for this country with fuzzy ideas that sound easy based on false guilt and the easy button. NUTS! There seems to be a lack of statesmanship in American leadership today. Commitment means a lot. Commitment means a stable country.

Issue (B:) 12 million illegals is nothing compared to the 24 million or more that must be deported and encourage to leave to live legal and prosperous lives in their countries of origin. President Eisenhower was able to deport several million within a year or two using way under a thousand border agents alone!

Issue (C:) If most of these illegals can’t be found is not a problem! We do not NEED to deport everybody in a short time such as a single year, two years, three years! We deport as you find. We outlaw hiring of illegals as you increase the acceptance of the law. We need to gradually teach Americans to obey the LAW again and never again MODEL the behavior of lawlessness again so help us GOD!

Issue (D/E:) Some people may hate the idea of deporting good looking young people, babies, the poor, and people who are crippled for examples. It’s ok to deport when we work on the countries of origin to help out and getting the attention of their families to help instead of waiting to be PULLED into our country illegally as well. Some children can be adopted when many Americans come forward who demonstrate responsibility!

Issue (F:) It is a realistic proposal contrary to what Mr. Rubio and others tells us! As I’ve stated in the other issues above, it can be done over time. It’s foolish to attempt do operations that take time to rush it. It’s only those who don’t want to fix our problems rationally are the ones who speak that it can’t be done. Many told us going to the moon was crazy. But did we do it?

We never give up in stabilizing and retaining the rule of law and righteousness in our country. Do do so is to make provisions for lawlessness and to cut corners and we spiral downward into an evil culture that accepts anything that corrupts our consciences.

Reference:
http://news.yahoo.com/voter-challenges-rubios-immigration-stance-during-town-hall-011605744–election.html

Turning the Other Cheek? Wisdom is knowing when to cheek and when to protect?

~R.OliverLuce | 01-19-15

Mr. Pope, tear down your walls of religiosity. Do you really understand the Word of God from the point of view of the truth? Truth is a person! Truth is not dead law! But the law is set for those who disobey the SPIRIT OF THE LAW, in seeking the truth to be respectful in spirit to everyone around.

Turning the other cheek? Come on, listen to what Jesus the Charismatic one is saying!

Turning the other cheek deals with confrontations that DO NOT involve protecting one’s family, one’s country, one’s home, one’s responsibilities. ABOVE ALL one’s responsibilities!

Your responsibilities to protect something, somebody, or your community must be maintained with your dependence on God’s help as well without arrogance. Now is the time to ignore the Catholic religion who does not understand THIS vast difference between cheek’ing it and standing it; It’s about knowing WHEN to turn the other cheek and when to goto war if necessary. It is in the Word of God. So help us God this Pope will listen to the Holy Spirit who is the author of wisdom.

~@ROliverLuce

An Open Letter to Mr Silva & Other Illegal Aliens, and Obama

Initially sent to Mr. Silva, who wrote from the White House

~R.OliverLuce | 11-25-14

Dear Astrid Silva,
and other illegal aliens (foreigners) who wish to redeem themselves for being (undocumented?),

I am responding to your “letter of gratitude” that seems to express your chance to redeem yourself and those of others, I’m sure, you wish to speak for them as well:

“President Obama’s action on immigration offered me the chance to give back — to do right by the law, and contribute to this country that has given me so much.” ~Astrid Silva.

But, I do appreciate your LETTER OF INTENT to redeem yourself, regarding how President Obama’s “Eventual Amnesty Executive Command” helps you out in this regard to do this.

Mr. Astrid Silva, regarding your ‘letter of gratitude’ on your wish to redeem yourself upon entry of the United States of America from your parent’s country of origin, it is imperative that you do so in a legal manner which produces real gratitude, respect, and true honor for the law of the land. This land, this nation called America.

A critical question for Mr. Silva and all those who are of foreign alien-ship without the gainsaying, who want to secure real American honor:
Therefore, are you willing to return with your parents to their country of origin, to redeem yourselves and enter our country (USA)? In this way you would be showing ‘a much better and a more meaningful’ respect not just for America but for our Constitution and it’s laws. Currently we have a President who is breaking our Constitution and we are in a CULTURE WAR to prevent this Muslim-Communist type to eventually be placed into prison or be impeached and pay the consequences of his actions! You and other aliens are simply being played as pawns in a war that only makes your attitude grow in the wrong direction for your life and your future children. Law are meant to be exercised and not to be broken. Law is primarily for law breakers as good people are given habitually to keep due to their spiritually developed attitude of gratitude and respect. Attitude is everything in life.

Those laws include getting into line behind other-foreigners like yourself. This includes the process of screening, learning the American melting pot culture, the language and the Constitution with it’s basic laws. Because you were sneaked into the country by your parents does not make your stay legal. I’m sorry but we must encourage each other in the right direction if we are to maintain a healthy nation culturally and spiritually. We all want to prosper and so does your country of origin!

Therefore, let us say:
Ok, Obama’s Executive Order (E.O.) gives you the illegal-right to break our laws, to jump the legal immigration line causing irreversible evil for both you and America’s future.

So, what about the poor people who are ensuring their spiritual character by doing what is right in keeping with the law of the country they respect. To obey is to show respect. To do something ELSE to redeem is not real respect.

We are humans who are creatures of habit! For what we do today reflects our future behavior, actions, and attitudes. This is why it’s said, “you can not fool God even when fooling all others.” When parents knowingly and ignorantly break a particular law that really means a lot to them for their security, future, and hope. It sets a serious precedence in their disposition of who they perceive themselves for their own personal integrity, and their influence over their next generation, their children.

Incidentally, the term “undocumented person” doesn’t even come CLOSE to saying what that really means except to gainsay over people in shutting up those who defend the law and the Constitution.
Aliens are lawless foreigners who need to SHOW their gratitude and respect and focus on what the law demands in order to be redeemed. One must get in line behind every other immigrant who is lawfully being called to be screened and to learn American law, culture, & language. If you are offended, then kindly stay in your own country. YOU must love it instead!

Help us help your country by helping us to do it from a position of strength without giving the farm away.

Sincerely,

Robert O Luce

@ROliverLuce

The American Indian speaks: The Illegal Child Ruse in CRUSHING the American Culture

~R.OliverLuce | 09-03-14

Take a lesson from the American Indian. STOP being self-righteous as in macho’ism and giving always what’s ours to illegals from all over the earth! Stop being weird as in supposed macho’ism. It’s what the Indians did as well when the White man came. The Indians had the same stinking liberal attitude of macho’ism in giving away THEIR culture.

Can anybody just rush across our borders without being deported or prevented? Where did this idea come from? That illegals born in any country has the right to invade USA illegally & get GOV benefits from America?

The American Indian SPEAKS!
Reference:

[Deport the kids and the babies born in USA back with any possible parents to their loving countries who have the responibility to care for them. We can assist from a position of strength if and only if we save our own CULTURE.]

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In order for a more orderly and righteous nation to survive, we must and will uphold our laws from which this nation is based upon, to enforce even the spirit of our laws. To enforce and obey all those laws we have created if we are to remain a righteous country, beginning with a president who will:

STOP and RETURN the ILLEGAL children, the illegal adults, the criminals, & the drug doper-killers back to their loving and caring countries from whence they came! From those nations whom egged them to come since Obama sprung his message of hope & change in lose borders and a lose culture that can accept any and all, no matter who they might be whether good, bad, or evil(hint Muslims & dopers).

It IS the illegal children that our out-of-control-GOV is gainsaying, using these kids as a ruse to suck in millions of illegals and keeping the poor kids. AND keeping the DOORS OPEN to all, thus putting our culture and security at risk. This huge flood will continue for as long as we allow liberal-progressivism to gain-speak in our country. Do we need to continue to allow communism to speak as well?

WE must wake up and defend what is ours! It doe not have to be primitive to defend what’s ours. It is a responsibility to defend the country. It is NOT Christ-LOVE to give away our culture, our security, and our very existence.

Moreover, it’s this land grab by eventual illegalism that will destroy the American Culture which WAS protected by LEGAL immigration. All this in order to kill off [so to speak] a perceived evil that the present American culture is evil. So say liberal-progressivism! Ask any hardcore (Calvinist-like) liberal-progressive elite who claims to know how Jesus thinks and does.

Again, we must stop and deport ALL of these illegals and the children back to their loving countries from whence they came. We can only help other countries from a POSITION OF STRENGTH. Not by giving up our strength. Assisting other nations does not mean doing so without egging them to help themselves in helping their own people and stopping the drug wars. Our Liberal Government is supporting these drug wars even unwittingly and refusing to listen to wise counsel.

Deport the kids and the babies born in USA back with any possible parents to their loving countries who have the responibility to care for them. We can assist from a position of strength if and only if we save our own CULTURE.

Referencing again:
Take a lesson from the American Indian. STOP being self-righteous and giving always what’s ours to illegals from all over the earth! Stop being weird as in supposed macho’ism. It’s what the Indians did as well when the White man came. The Indians had the same stinking liberal attitude of macho’ism in giving away THEIR culture.

Can anybody just rush across our borders without being deported or prevented? Where did this idea come from? That illegals born in any country has the right to invade USA illegally & get GOV benefits from America?

The American Indian SPEAKS!
Reference:

[Deport the kids and the babies born in USA back with any possible parents to their loving countries who have the responibility to care for them. We can assist from a position of strength if and only if we save our own CULTURE.]

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A Warning for President Obama & Fellow Americans Who Walk in Self-Deception

A warning for those who walk in national self-deception, whether progressive or conservative!

An address to President @BarackObama and everyone else who have been self-deceived in believing America is not exceptional, but is willingly redeemable and searching the ever continuing revelation of righteousness that releases us from our sins that God brings to the surface. In God we believe we can always overcome our sins and bring real freedom to our country! An exceptional country redeemable even in the face of those who hate her, but willing to show other nations and their own personal cultures they too can have freedoms without self incrimination and perversion.

A prophecy to an America Leader who has choosen, through self-deception, to walk away from the God of his forefathers who began this great American republic even as a flawed nation with sin, but a nation redeemable through it’s spirit of willingly given to the God of creation. There is a difference between a people’s spirit who sin and those who sin but are redeemable without bitterness and unforgiveness.

2Ch 7:17-22 “As for you(Obama), if you walk before Me as your father David(Washington) walked, even to do according to all that I have commanded you(Obama), and will keep My statutes and My ordinances(God’s), (18) then I will establish your royal throne(Obama’s heritage) as I covenanted with your father David(Washington and his fellow men), saying, ‘You shall not lack a man to be ruler in Israel(America).’ (19) “But if you turn away and forsake My statutes and My commandments(righteousness over death) which I have set before you(Obama and your fellow men), and go and serve other gods(perversions and false guilt) and worship them(by doing & obsessing them), (20) then I will uproot you(Obama and your fellow associates) from My land(America) which I have given you(Obama and fellow Americans), and this house(leadership) which I have consecrated(blessed and directed) for My name(God and His Covenant of love) I will cast out(reject your self-righteousness) of My sight and I will make it a proverb and a byword among all peoples(of the world). (21) “As for this house(leadership), which was exalted(to the presidency), everyone who passes by it will be astonished and say, ‘Why has the LORD done thus to this land(America) and to this house(leadership)?’ (22) “And they will say, ‘Because they(Obama and fellow associates) forsook the LORD, the God of their forefathers who brought them(America) from the land of Egypt(rulership of [English] tyranny), and they adopted other gods(tyranny self-deceptions) and worshiped them and served them(under deceptive bondages); therefore He(God) has brought all this adversity(results of sin & perversion) on them(leadership and those who did nothing or followed).'” {NASB bible version ~ROliverLuce}

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Myth of the Moderate Muslim & the Effect On Finances?

The Myth of the Moderate Muslim & the Effect On Finances?
By R.OliverLuce | April 23, 2013

It is said that Islam is a religion of peace.  And first off, it must be said, that there are those who will disagree with what I’m about to reveal in this article.  What I have written is contradicted by those who cheer for Islam and the moderate Muslim!  Mainly it’s those on the LEFT who believe and do openly support the leadership of Islam and the Moderate Muslim in America & in the West overall.  For Islam does keep on stating their desire to live in peace and never ever want to take over a country like the United States and deny the people their rights and freedoms!  Well, there you have it.  Will the Moderate Muslim really rule the day and recant the teachings of the Quran and Sharia? Will they truly show the way to true Muslim love and peace without following the Quran and Sharia?  Time will tell whether or not we might need to deport and defend our liberties in the future!

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Moderate Muslims are people who follow & obey the teachings from the Quran and Sharia Law.  If Sharia Law has not been instituted yet in the foreign country the Moderate Muslim might find himself in, they are expected to push, shove, & use the host country’s laws against it, in order to install Sharia.

This is the beginning of one of their prong attacks (so-called peace method of attack of their 3-prongs) in taking over the host country.  The United States will not be the financial leader in the world any longer when Islam begins their slow take-over using American freedoms to institute their sharia law and ultimately their culture.  Islamic culture will tear the constitution apart, and it will prevent people to NOT freely and morally to develop financially again as we know it.  Islam by it’s very nature is evil and destructive centering on dictates from their religion of hate.  Women for one will not be allowed to become entrepreneurs.  And Islam does not have any interest in American financial institutions as such.  Islam by it’s very nature is a political system supported by a religion that is against financial businesses as we know in the West.  Financial success in the West is based on Christian morals which Islam will never sustain.  For one, it’s a dictatorship by it’s, yes, very nature!

The free-financial capitalist dream America has enjoyed was a direct result of Christianity in America during the 1700’s and the 1800’s.  It was also the reason why South Korea surged so dramatically from the 1970’s until today. It was the overwhelming surge in people becoming Christians which allowed the fantastic financial development that has occurred in that country!  Look at all the high technology & car companies in South Korea!

Usually the Moderate Muslim will have no inclination for violence at all, and will not claim it’s (the violence) righteousness in public to non-Muslims.   But they are instructed to embrace the full-truth from the Quran and Sharia, especially in taking over the country they are residing in, and to lie to their non-Muslim hosts.  But of course, it’s a sin to lie to another Muslim.  At any rate, it is written, that once a single Muslim happens to step onto a foreign nations soil, it now and must belong to Allah in due time. Along with this teaching, all non-Muslims must be converted to Islam with no exceptions in the long run.

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Fox:Supreme Court Agrees Somewhat w- FEDs; We are a NATION without Borders Now, INSANE!!

This is obscene!! We are a country without borders, NO ENFORCEMENT!!  The Supreme Court upholds most of Obama’s fight to allow the world in illegally without enforcing immigration law as Judge Scalia stated in his strong dissention.  Scalia rails against an Anti-Constitutional Obama!!  With the help of some conservatives even WE ARE A NATION IN DECLINE as a country!!

We are a nation on the verge of disintegration; And this is the democrats vision of a NEW North American country with communist controls.

Reference:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/25/feds-suspend-immigration-enforcement-program-after-arizona-court-ruling/

Liberal Subversion in American Schools

Banning American songs from our children in our American schools? What? It’s time we outlaw this kind of sickness for what it is, subversion!  Let it be jail time or sending people like this to Russia or China where their beliefs jive.  And there should be NO guilt feelings about it when evil people do evil things especially to our children!

“NYC principal bars students from singing ‘God Bless the USA’ at graduation!”

The principle says, “We don’t want to offend other cultures.” What?? This is the USA. There is no other way to take this, but the principal must have a beef with our American culture when they do this kind of behavior or it’s purposeful subversion!!  Incidentally there is only one culture in America. A nation can only have one culture, one social order, reasonable but unobtrusive laws, and a set of enforced borders to survive as a functioning country.

Find that principle ASAP and explain to this gentleman the facts of life! Tell this principle, “When in Rome do as the Romans do.” It’s one heck of a very old proverb with a bedrock truth!! Either this principle is doing this on purpose spreading subversion or he was not taught by his parents to be a normal functioning American human being. He needs help if his pride will allow it, and if we will be patient with him. But if it’s subversion the principle has done, OFF WITH HIS HEAD lol.  But seriously, subversion must be dwelt swiftly in a legal way.

Ref:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/10/nyc-principal-bars-students-from-singing-god-bless-usa-at-graduation/#ixzz1xNFLAfWs?test=latestnews?test=latestnews

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Rubio’s Illegals: Paying Off Hispanics Instead of Educating Why LAW is Crucial To A Nation’s Health & Survival

We must ONLY assist people like illegal immigrants from a ‘National Position of Strength’ instead. We cannot afford to caving in and setting a precedence of forgoing our national laws over our land! We set laws for good reasons and if we continue to be DOUBLE MINDED on this matter, it does spell doom for us eventually. We are but humans who live and breathe by habit in everything we do.

Rubio’s ‘DREAM’ amnesty for illegals is still illegal as it will eventually destroy a nation! This will yet again lead to more and more amnesties in the near future with millions and millions crowding out what are LEGAL immigration.

What we need to do is educate the rest of our LEGAL Hispanics the NEED to enforce the LAW (illegal is illegal) to save the respect for the LAW and save a nation from eventual destruction from lawlessness! Most Hispanics who are legal or citizens, KNOW the meaning of enforcing the LAW already!

Therefore, instead of yet another amnesty program for illegal law breakers, we need to help LEGAL immigration and educate illegals on how to get in line for legal immigration for them! And more importantly, let our nation assist in our missionaries and churches everywhere in helping such countries as Mexico who does need assistance. Additionally, to assist even the private institutions who send in help into countries such as Mexico!  For starters our Government could send in troops to finish off the Drug War that is forcing illegals into our country even by design in the Whitehouse!

If we do this, it will spell the doom to law-abiding Americans everywhere. We are a nation of laws. To allow this is to open the floodgates of excuses to a flood of lawlessness in our nation; we all at times have little excuses in wishing to get out of a fix when dealing with the LAW! We all would bend and ignore the law that is so full of injustice to our inconvenience! Oh gosh, oh the injustice? It’s already happening where we are losing respect for the law. When a President refuses to enforce the laws of the land, as he is currently doing it, it is a stark example of where we are headed NOW. This does affect the rest of the country. As the leaders go, so goes the people of any group or nation! Where does it STOP?? The slope is slippery when we are dealing with people and law.